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Chimera
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The city has a lack of things to do and ways to make money or everything is just stupid expensive. But for things to do, can we please get a venue like a nightclub/bar/cafe thing that can have jobs or not; that is not player owned? Something for people to hang out at? 

Also why is there not req stuff? 

  • Tennis
  • Basketball
  • Arm wrestling
  • Beer pong
  • Golf 
  • Gym 

These things being missing kinda go back into there being nothing to do if you do not wish to stand around with other people. 

Also can we get the pet store and purchasable pets? 

And more solo job? Hot dog stand, etc. Stuff that you can work at reliably on your time to make some money. 

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New Chance
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But for things to do, can we please get a venue like a nightclub/bar/cafe thing that can have jobs or not; that is not player owned?

We have Taco Libre which is a public business that has 3 positions for players to clock in at and work. This also provides a place for people to hang out at in the city. We will be expanding on this public business type in the future so there are more opportunities for players to engage in this type of work.

Also why is there not req stuff?
  • Tennis
  • Basketball
  • Arm wrestling
  • Beer pong
  • Golf
  • Gym

This isn't as easy as just adding a new item to a store but we do have some of these new features in the dev pipeline and they will be coming in a future release, along with other recreational activities. Currently you can fish, which also makes you some money, scuba dive, parachute, hike, bike, and race so we do have activities out there for players.

Also can we get the pet store and purchasable pets?

We've been wanting to get a pet system for a while but most of them are either stolen from NoPixel and could risk us facing a DMCA and having our server violate FiveM TOS, or they're old outdated garbage. However, this is something we will be doing at some point once we find the right option or make our own.

And more solo job? Hot dog stand, etc. Stuff that you can work at reliably on your time to make some money.

You mentioned taxi and fishing only in your post so maybe you're not aware of all of the solo jobs we have available. As far as getting more solo jobs, yes there will be a lot more jobs coming with future releases but we don't want to continue to support solo only jobs on our roleplay server. There's not much roleplay benefit to playing this game solo... if that's what you're looking for this isn't the place for it. The jobs we are focusing on for the future will be a hybrid that will have interaction with others while also offering some solo ability. Even some of our current public jobs allow you to coop with friends, and reward you with more pay for doing so. These public jobs are available so you are not "forced to do criminal stuff just to make money" as they make a good amount and are legal which means you won't have the risk of being arrested and fined.


Public jobs - Minimum pay is $5000/hour (This will surely pay for a lot of noodles and gas while allowing you to save up for larger purchases)
Garbage (Unlimited and coop)
Taxi (Unlimited and solo)
Trucking (Unlimited and Coop)
Taco Libre (Limited to 3 clocked in)

Player owned businesses
I have no doubt you're right on these things. They take people to run them and are not open jobs for the public. Those owners have limited schedules and may never be online when you are. Just the nature of the game here guys... every business can't be open all the time. We have a requirement for them to meet and there are a larger number of businesses so they can hopefully all be active at some point during a time where some players are on the server. Therefore, its logical to expect this system to work the way it is where you see that some businesses are available and open while you are playing. Vanilla unicorn isn't officially owned and operated right now as its in a state of us decided how we can make it more of a public location.

The Economy
I understand why you're perplexed by the economy. It isn't an easy thing to wrap your head around. If you're thinking to yourself... I can buy an orange for 0.50 at the grocery store, why the hell is it $40 here?!!? I would ask yourself this... where can you make $5000/ hour picking up garbage?

This is my experience thusfar: - Sit here for a week after getting trained unable to clock in a lot of the time. - Try fishing but it's ZZZ- Sit around some more. - walk around and chat with cool people - Pay $200+ for gas with a $150 unemployment check. - Pay $40 for water and oranges, 200 for soba noodles, and 70-500 for a singular taco. Yes, real. This is the new player experience. Congrats.

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Training process needs work and is a problem.

-Agreed

Money isn't good enough.

- You're right and I'm going to make a small increase to help that.

Fishing is bored to some people.
-Agreed but there is money to be made.

Walk around and RP and meet cool people.

-Agreed and this is very important for a RP server.

Pay $200+ for gas with an unemployment check of $150.

-There are public jobs as outlined above to make much better money, however... $150 unemployment checks come every 10 minutes and a full take of fuel should easily last you more than 10 minutes of driving.

Pay $40 for water and oranges and 200 for noodles and 70-500 for a taco

-See above, the economy isn't based on the real world pay and costs. Show me a garbage driver making $5000/hr. Also, tacos are free at taco libre and the employee make a pay check so you don't need to pay them. If they won't give it to you free then go someone else for food, there are lots of other food places in town you just might have to ask around to find them.

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TheAlphaStrain

As I am aware, there are 2 Bars up north of the city that should, respectfully, stay open 24/7. But I do get what you mean, probably something closer to inner city. But I feel like we need to start expanding to things outside the city. Right now it would seem that 90% of the content is centralized in the city. That's great and all, but that's like 1/4 of the entire map.

I cannot confirm specifics as no one other than staff knows completely, but there is more stuff coming. You just gotta be patient. That includes more public jobs which has been stated along with recreational activities.

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tunkwa

There is actually a lot to do. I know of a couple of bars that are open quite frequently. Keep an eye on advertisements section in city as well as city events in discord. There are activities that can't be mentioned due to being Meta, you just need to meet the people and fall in to the group that you want. There is Taxi, Trucking, Taco Libre, Fishing... All of those you can make decent money off of. Other things are coming when the great devs are able to release it. Patience is a virtue my friend.

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Chimera
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There is actually a lot to do. I know of a couple of bars that are open quite frequently. Keep an eye on advertisements section in city as well as city events in discord. There are activities that can't be mentioned due to being Meta, you just need to meet the people and fall in to the group that you want. There is Taxi, Trucking, Taco Libre, Fishing... All of those you can make decent money off of. Other things are coming when the great devs are able to release it. Patience is a virtue my friend.

I am saying not player owned for a reason. Because nothing is open besides Pearls & Hookies that open regularly. Even when I log on sometimes during "normal times" I don't see like a healthy portion of these businesses ever actually open. 

Actually lets go down the list. . . 

Never Seen Open: 

Split Sides

Tequi lala 

The craft Bar

The hen house

The magic pussycat

vanilla unicorn

yellow jack

white widow

Pagassi

Grove Street 

Alta

(For dealerships I mean I never seen anyone manning them.) 

Seen Open: 

Pearls

Hookies 

PDM

Bahama Mamas

Ground  & Pound 

Best buds (once)

Smoke on the water (not personally but a friend has)

So yes, I think there needs to be an in city venue that is NOT player owned that people can vibe at. 

And no, for example: the spot I'm in a trainee but I cannot work at non-whitelisted jobs taxi and so on and people aren't flagged on when I'm around so I cannot do anything and no, I strongly believe you should not be forced to do criminal stuff just to make a few dollars because people don't want to do their jobs; especially when it does not fit the character. Going onto that, fishing is boring for me; mind numbingly so and does not have any depths. Sit there, press G and then press 6-9 rinse repeat for hours of your life doing nothing. No thanks; I'll pass. 

Legit the city cannot afford tennis rackets? Golf clubs? A gym? A library? Things that you would actually find in a normal city? But we have 40 dollar orange? I am perplexed by far. Businesses are ghost towns. There's no recreational things to do. There's no legal ways to make money if you are sitting at trainee for weeks; besides fishing. 

Saying "just wait" is very easy to do, but saying "just wait" for months at a time is kinda strange. I have no attachments like some of you that made your money so I hear during the stock markets, etc. I don't have lots of money, lots of cars, etc and am bright eyed and bushy tailed to the city; so I would actually take this advice to heart from someone that has nothing here instead of just saying "just wait" all the time. The server has been open for a year now or more from what I can tell. 

This is my experience thusfar: 
- Sit here for a week after getting trained unable to clock in a lot of the time. 

- Try fishing but it's ZZZ

- Sit around some more. 

- walk around and chat with cool people 

- Pay $200+ for gas with a $150 unemployment check. 

- Pay $40 for water and oranges, 200 for soba noodles, and 70-500 for a singular taco. 

Yes, real. This is the new player experience. Congrats. 

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MrDoge

I Agree with @Chimera As I am also a new player to the City, there's nothing for me to do either other than illegally go chop cars for hours and sometimes never even come across a car I need on my chop list to earn the money, Last time I did Chop shop I had to wait 5 days until I found a Furore Car, And since all of the "Salary Jobs" got rinsed and lowered on pay its not even worth it to even have a Whitelist job either, Because they were lowered because people were "making too much money" Sure this makes sense on a Server that has like 250 players concurrent and never dropping a single digit, But here on New Chance, It doesn't really make sense as there's very little to do, and Personally , I don't want to waste my time on Fishing as it takes far too long to accumulate enough money to be comfortable and be able to afford a House. Don't get me wrong I love this server and its community with all of my heart, but the "Salary Jobs" need an increased pay because otherwise as a lowest ranking employee they make about as much as some gangbanger working at Taco Libre which is kinda sad tbqh, And this also shows that quite a dip in players has started to slowly increase, there was once a entire week where Crime was literally constantly happening and even the whole "SOA VS Will & Phil" Situation going on and no EMS or Police are on because they aren't getting paid enough or even above a guy making a Taco at Taco Libre. 

However, From all of this supposed "Content" I've been hearing that's in the city is very little or unknown because there is even people who hold all the cards to know what's going on, Just ask the Vagos "Give us $50K For us to tell you how to begin Making Cocaine or Meth" Yeah no hard pass, and having old players predating on newer players is pretty scummy. There's a bunch of ways to make money Im sure of it but everyone keeps it a secret and by keeping it a secret and considering it to be some type of "Metagaming" Rule is totally just like dumb because this is the Forums not me texting you in game.

Which makes new players leave because the insane prices on the Dealership Cars because the "Government" Wants to "Drain the Swamp" btw Drain the swamp is a Political Term used to getting rid of Corrupt people in the Government and not draining our bank accounts and paychecks to be as little as a Taco Libre Employee,

This also goes onto another problem, I'm currently in a "Salary Job" however there's something wrong, I cannot Clock in when I want because I have to have someone there to hold my hand the entire time and when they Clock out I gotta clock out, which is somewhat BS if anything, So its like I'm an Intern for LSMS for example but I cannot clock in unless someone is there to hold my hand like a 3 yr old going to the Grocery store with my mom, but Its a job that I was accepted into but I cannot clock in so that way Im doing my Job instead I'm sitting around in the City doing absolutely nothing that will allow me to earn Money for the job that I applied for, Instead I am not allowed to do anything with the job unless someone is there but, I can't get in the hours required because there is never a single person clocked in inside of that Department ever. Which hurts the Salary Jobs from getting new people because being a Criminal and Chopping Cars gets me more net worth than an actual Surgeon in real life, No Im not joking, last week I made over 250K in less that 48 hours, Yeah that's ridiculous but, Its also hurting newer people looking for a Community that isn't Nopixel.

And to include I heard about the Player limit was going to be increased on the first day I showed up in the City, But no news nothing has come from that, Otherwise stepping away from that part, Its hella hard to make any money in the city without doing constant illegal shit.

And to not speak about the player businesses I could probably go to hell for but, Places like The Vanilla Unicorn, Sanders Motors, Pegassi and so on are only open selectively which is horrible Any business that does that in Real life are expected to go down in flames just ask Gordon Fucking Ramsay, the Businesses that I see able to keep going are PDM, Pearls, Bahama mamas, Ground & Pound and Hookies.

You must be asking me why the hell I mentioned Pegassi, its because the workers are on at 6:00 A.M USA CST for about 10 minutes and then fuck off and do nothing else. Sanders Motors, The Owner "Choppa" I asked if he wanted to have some one hired to work there and he straight up told me to fuck off and not call him ever again, Truly Sanders is not gonna last long in its current state of Inactivity other than placing a new bike in the window once a month.

Vanilla Unicorn, I've never seen that fackin Place open Once since I have been here, and the Magic Pussy cat was open like once but its got new management and are hiring thank god.

Also I have a friend in California and I asked him how often they get Rain on average is 35 out of 365 days a year only 35 days worth, Its like fucking london here it Rains more than it does in Chicago Illnois and that's fucking bad At this point I'm surprised the mountains haven't became a Flat earthers Dream yet.

But there seriously needs to be some Pay raises so that way Salary jobs actually seem worth getting otherwise what's the fuckin point If an intern makes the same amount as a Taco Libre Employee.

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MrDoge

ALSO May I suggest that the Subscription so to become a Dog on the server instead of tying it to a $60 Dollar Fee of every month why not make the Dog whitelist of $5 or $10 dollars or making it a one time charge instead of fucking my Credit Card until it asks you to stop or it will call the police.

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TheAlphaStrain

Let me start off by saying, I understand how you feel. Being as I've only been in the city for a little over a month. I get it. Let me take a moment by saying I'm a person who, no matter what city I fly into or what game I am playing will ALWAYS test out every possible way to make money and time it to find out which takes the least time or which makes the most.

I have a salary job, but for me, I didn't take it or want it for the money. But I haven't been clocked in because I have been doing what makes the most amount of money, legally, to get the car I want. Am I mad about that? No. Disappointed? Somewhat. Personally, I think, due to the fact that we have to apply like an actual in-head job to get the position, after a certain point we should, at the very least, be making the same if not more than public jobs and active hobbies such as fishing. 

With that said, let me lay some facts down... can I make more money per hour doing any legal, public job (Including fishing) than clocking in to my salary job? Yes. Well, aside from 2 jobs and that's hauling and taco libre if there are no customers. New vehicle laws screwed up the trucks in a bad way when there's a trailer. Garbage? Roughly 5.5-7k per hour without additional selling. Uber eats? Even with the price changes? Definitely so long as you don't buy a certain super expensive item. Fishing? Absolutely. I get that it's boring as hell. I really do. I fished for 14 hours last night and got over 2100 fish, that wasn't 14 hours straight either, I took a few breaks. But don't sit there and tell me it makes no money. If you're taking more than an hour to catch 100 fish you're doing it wrong. It's $45 per fish, you do the math. Same with Taxi. You may not notice because locals pay with both card and cash.

Also, as far a chop shop goes, if you're taking more than a day to even get 2 or 3+ lists done, you're doing the wrong list. If you're doing it for money that is.

I also understand the frustration behind the player owned business, as having been an owner of a business myself, please understand from our/their point of view as well that the only way they make money is for people to be there. The business I used to own, I had it open for 8 hours one day and I only made 4k profit take home. After supplies. I truly mean 8 hours it was open. I sat there for 8 hours practically doing nothing making unemployment checks. Owning a business, right now, is a tad lackluster for owners as they don't get a salary, they gotta take the time to re-stock anything they sell. So it only makes sense to open for a few hours here and there. When I first bought the business I sold, it took me roughly 10 hours of back and forth to get 100 of every item. 8 of those hours I did solid. When I finally opened... it just wasn't what I was expecting. I knew someone who wanted it more than me so I sold it to them. But, the future looks promising for business owners.

Also, as I've stated previously, there are 2 bars (4 if you look hard enough) up North that are open 24/7 and could make for some good hangout sessions and RP experiences.

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Honton x

Reading all of these posts, I see alot of complaining about money, and also about not having alot to do, however, being a part of this city for over a year, the city is what you make it. Money comes with time, and you shouldn't expect to be making hella bank in such a short time. As for player owned businesses, they're PLAYER OWNED businesses, players with an entire life outside of the city. It's an issue yes, that alot of the time it seems like they're not open, but there are reasons for that. That's why the gov't put an activity minimum on businesses to ensure that they're at least opened once a week or so. If you happen to miss a businesses opening, it is what it is. You gotta lookout for when they are open; however in my experience, even when new people do go to Player Owned Businesses, they walk in, see whats on the menu and walk out or they do end up hanging around for a bit. Even without Player owned businesses, people are still able to CREATE areas to hangout and CREATE RP. If there are no events around, make one, that's the beauty of RP. Would it be nice to have minigames and other things to do in the city? Sure. But having these things wont give you the life changing experience I feel some of you are thinking. You want to hang out at a cafe? There's a Bean Machine open 24/7 right next to D8. You don't feel like clocking in to make money? Organize a group hike, try to find some jetskis and invite some friends, go bmxing. Take the initiative to create experiences in the city instead of blaming the other players who are content to what is provided in the city currently making the most to what they're given and especially our devs who definitely ARE working on the city and trying to get us to 1.0 without having to worry about a time limit as they have THEIR entire life to focus on as well. If things aren't up to par to what you're expecting, I'm sorry. But trust me, good things are definitely coming in the future, and that's not a cop out answer. It's a goddamn promise. You just gotta be patient enough to see it get here. Thanks for coming to my Honton talk.

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But for things to do, can we please get a venue like a nightclub/bar/cafe thing that can have jobs or not; that is not player owned?

We have Taco Libre which is a public business that has 3 positions for players to clock in at and work. This also provides a place for people to hang out at in the city. We will be expanding on this public business type in the future so there are more opportunities for players to engage in this type of work.

Also why is there not req stuff?
  • Tennis
  • Basketball
  • Arm wrestling
  • Beer pong
  • Golf
  • Gym

This isn't as easy as just adding a new item to a store but we do have some of these new features in the dev pipeline and they will be coming in a future release, along with other recreational activities. Currently you can fish, which also makes you some money, scuba dive, parachute, hike, bike, and race so we do have activities out there for players.

Also can we get the pet store and purchasable pets?

We've been wanting to get a pet system for a while but most of them are either stolen from NoPixel and could risk us facing a DMCA and having our server violate FiveM TOS, or they're old outdated garbage. However, this is something we will be doing at some point once we find the right option or make our own.

And more solo job? Hot dog stand, etc. Stuff that you can work at reliably on your time to make some money.

You mentioned taxi and fishing only in your post so maybe you're not aware of all of the solo jobs we have available. As far as getting more solo jobs, yes there will be a lot more jobs coming with future releases but we don't want to continue to support solo only jobs on our roleplay server. There's not much roleplay benefit to playing this game solo... if that's what you're looking for this isn't the place for it. The jobs we are focusing on for the future will be a hybrid that will have interaction with others while also offering some solo ability. Even some of our current public jobs allow you to coop with friends, and reward you with more pay for doing so. These public jobs are available so you are not "forced to do criminal stuff just to make money" as they make a good amount and are legal which means you won't have the risk of being arrested and fined.


Public jobs - Minimum pay is $5000/hour (This will surely pay for a lot of noodles and gas while allowing you to save up for larger purchases)
Garbage (Unlimited and coop)
Taxi (Unlimited and solo)
Trucking (Unlimited and Coop)
Taco Libre (Limited to 3 clocked in)

Player owned businesses
I have no doubt you're right on these things. They take people to run them and are not open jobs for the public. Those owners have limited schedules and may never be online when you are. Just the nature of the game here guys... every business can't be open all the time. We have a requirement for them to meet and there are a larger number of businesses so they can hopefully all be active at some point during a time where some players are on the server. Therefore, its logical to expect this system to work the way it is where you see that some businesses are available and open while you are playing. Vanilla unicorn isn't officially owned and operated right now as its in a state of us decided how we can make it more of a public location.

The Economy
I understand why you're perplexed by the economy. It isn't an easy thing to wrap your head around. If you're thinking to yourself... I can buy an orange for 0.50 at the grocery store, why the hell is it $40 here?!!? I would ask yourself this... where can you make $5000/ hour picking up garbage?

This is my experience thusfar: - Sit here for a week after getting trained unable to clock in a lot of the time. - Try fishing but it's ZZZ- Sit around some more. - walk around and chat with cool people - Pay $200+ for gas with a $150 unemployment check. - Pay $40 for water and oranges, 200 for soba noodles, and 70-500 for a singular taco. Yes, real. This is the new player experience. Congrats.

Whitelist jobs
Training process needs work and is a problem.

-Agreed

Money isn't good enough.

- You're right and I'm going to make a small increase to help that.

Fishing is bored to some people.
-Agreed but there is money to be made.

Walk around and RP and meet cool people.

-Agreed and this is very important for a RP server.

Pay $200+ for gas with an unemployment check of $150.

-There are public jobs as outlined above to make much better money, however... $150 unemployment checks come every 10 minutes and a full take of fuel should easily last you more than 10 minutes of driving.

Pay $40 for water and oranges and 200 for noodles and 70-500 for a taco

-See above, the economy isn't based on the real world pay and costs. Show me a garbage driver making $5000/hr. Also, tacos are free at taco libre and the employee make a pay check so you don't need to pay them. If they won't give it to you free then go someone else for food, there are lots of other food places in town you just might have to ask around to find them.

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Zopfco

^this fishy Honton guy p much stole my post XD

Stop waiting for a "Click E to have fun!" experience and find ways to use what's available in this giant sandbox. There's so much going on (races for example) that isn't even mentioned here. That's someone having an idea and running with it & I can assure you admins will help with this as much as possible if you open a ticket & ask. The thing is: you aren't going to find this stuff if you never stop grinding money to talk to people. I promise there's plenty of "stuff to do".

Also wanted to add:

1.  I've seen at least 3 player businesses post "Help Wanted" ads in the last week or so, that's another option

2. Fishing is a way to make decent money while hanging out, & for some kind of a RP lifestyle. If you're doing it alone for hours staring out to sea, yeah that's probably going to get boring for most people.

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ALSO May I suggest that the Subscription so to become a Dog on the server instead of tying it to a $60 Dollar Fee of every month why not make the Dog whitelist of $5 or $10 dollars or making it a one time charge instead of fucking my Credit Card until it asks you to stop or it will call the police.

This isn't something we will do because of the amount of issues/support that come with making someone an animal ped and also us wanting it to not be a very commonly seen thing in the server. This is something we only do for our biggest supporters as a bonus and a big thank you for their support. It is not a feature we ever want to be common place here.


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