Being in an official gang and having a business
Context: You cannot be in an official gang and hold another whitelist job, which includes business ownership too, on the same character.
I honestly feel like this rule is meant to straight up make people that are in official gangs expose themselves as gang members. You basically can't be in an official gang and keep it lowkey. While I maybe understand not having a whitelist job, I don't understand why you can't own a business.
Businesses are great for gangs as they can be used for roleplay as fronts for "money laundering" , their legal front in general.
IRL gang members are not gang members as a full-time job. Most of them either own businesses, or work somewhere as their 9 to 5, based on the gang/mob that it is.
https://people.howstuffworks.com/10-businesses-supposedly-controlled-by-the-mafia.htm
This is great for RP purposes and I really can't see why it is not allowed. People that currently own a business and are in an official gang will probably find a loophole of some kind and pass the ownership to one of their friends just to be on their name, then they will still act around as they are owners or co-owners in some way. But not only that;
From a money making point of view, being in an official gang right now grants you no gain other than maybe a gang house. You can't make any money through paychecks of any sort. Same with the businesses (other than strip clubs and dealerships). And I know this will change soon. But it feels way too early to apply this rule if right now none of them are happening. I'd postpone this rule until "official gangs with a whitelist job style system that includes pay and perks".
Maybe allow people that are in official gangs to own a business but without being able to clock in at that business and make money out of it through a paycheck system, leaving them only the official gang system that is supposed to come in the future? Just to have the MLO basically with no other benefits, if all this is about the monetary gain that they can have from both owning a business AND being in an official gang.
I honestly feel like all of this should happen in roleplay. You can own a business, you can do whatever you want, as long as you keep your record clean and stay out of trouble. You get caught by the cops doing something bad, the government steps in and revokes your licence. As easy as that. This just straight up limits the roleplay of the people as it is right now, and it makes people that are into crim RP / official gangs very limited, almost like punished.
There's not businesses in every hood/official gang territory and we don't make our own mapping so its not something the we can make. Also, this would be something that they would complain about too because they'd be forced into owning whatever it is we gave them based on location.
This isn't going to happen. The pay was reduced for a reason and we cannot just revert those changes. I stated in other posts already and I'll say it again. WHITELIST JOB PAY IS BEING BUMPED BACK UP TODAY. But not reverted. Also see Dan Baldy's comment about who makes the most money... its outdated since we lowed the whitelist job pay, but he was right if we're speaking of how the pay was previous. Whitelist jobs made the most... second only to the crims that worked drugs with a good system.
We do not discourage this and we never ask or look where the money comes from... Businesses can be funded however it happens but the owner cannot be in an official gang.
Criminals can do all of these activities anytime they want to make money:
Stores
Houses
Chop
Cars
Drugs
Garbage
Taxi
Uber Eats
Taco Libre
Trucking
and if you read the announcement you'd have seen that they're also getting a new activity
Non-crims have:
The choice of 1 whitelist job or 1 business
Garbage,
Taxi,
Trucking,
Uber Eats,
Taco Libre
Risky? Slowed your progress? Here are the dates you got charges from cops through the entire time you've played here. 3 of them were just speeding tickets. Yet you've been a criminal all the while and even ran a gang. Have they taken your sports cars and million dollar mansion? Have you paid a ton of fines? No, you haven't paid much and still have two unpaid actually...
Dates of all charges, 3 of which are speeding tickets.
Outstanding fines not paid
This is a big one so I'm going to try to just make some points from it.
1. People can make money for their business however they want. I don't care if its from crime or whitelist jobs or trash.
2. The restriction isn't "You can't buy a business with drug money", the ONLY restriction here is you can't be in an OFFICIAL GANG, and own a business. Why is everyone blowing this out of proportion?
3. RP will play out how it plays out and yes, business owners might lose their business or whitelist job employee might lose their jobs should they decided to do crime. But again... not talking about that, just saying can't be in an official gang and own a business or work a whitelist job.
4. Context: You cannot be in an official gang and hold another whitelist job, which includes business ownership too, on the same character.
Did I say that you can't work with someone outside of your official gang to run a front for you? I don't see that I said that anywhere. Did I say you can't fund a business? Nope.
So again... Context: You cannot be in an official gang and hold another whitelist job, which includes business ownership too, on the same character.
I kinda covered this one already but since I'm just going from the top here I'll just say it again. People can make money for their business however they want. I don't care if its from crime or whitelist jobs or trash.
Another thing that people might not fully understand is that we do have plans in the future to release certain businesses that are MUCH LESS REGULATED than the one's we have now. But for now, the attention is on adding more options for non-crims because the server is currently 10 things for crims to make money on vs 6 for non-crims. Or if you wanna eliminate the public jobs that everyone can use from the counts... then its 5 things for crims to do to make money, vs 1 for non-crims.