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Conversation #2: Not Valuing Freedom

rayuu

3 years ago
updated 3 years ago

Read the Introductory Post before you start reading here: https://feedback.newchance.network/en/communities/1/topics/422-operation-lets-have-a-convo

Given a lot of warning levels have been escalated because of this rule, we would love to get some feedback on what some of you think about this rule in particular! Please keep the conversation civil and I hope we can get ample feedback for it!
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Not valuing your freedom
Committing loud or highly visible criminal acts, violent or non-violent, in or near areas that would be highly populated such as, government buildings, job locations or business' within the city is not allowed unless proper logical RP has taken place prior.

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New Chance

3 years ago

This is a big rule that affects a lot of people. Would like to see more involvement from the community.

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Zopfco

3 years ago

Quote from Chimera

Adding to Spooky, I think new city hall should be included in the green zone. It is between the police station and the hospital and realistically it would have guards posted everywhere because the city hall is where the judges, mayor, etc would realistically be posted; so to me you shouldn't be robbing, shooting, looting, carjacking in a location that would logically have a ton of security to protect VIPs.

As well as I don't think you should be irritating/pissing off the people that would logically down the line you might need help from. (EMS & Lawyers)

Agree about city hall but I don't think anyone should get a free pass based on their day job. I get the reasoning but think it can be played out in character. Sure EMS & Lawyers have to work with everyone but they still have enough leeway to make things more or less difficult for someone at their discretion.

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Chimera

3 years ago

As well as I don't think you should be irritating/pissing off the people that would logically down the line you might need help from. (EMS & Lawyers)

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Spooky👻

3 years ago

Something id like to add to this is that going back for downed or injured friends were there is the chance of police showing up should not be NVF. Because especially for groups like gangs or family's its ride or die, People would rather get caught than let there friend die or get arrested himself. Specific green zones should be, MRPD, ZONAH and inside taco, (outside is still the hood)

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Zopfco

3 years ago

"Proper logical RP" is very open to interpretation & situational. We all think we know what that means but if pressed we'd probably all disagree at some point XD

Proper logical RP would lead me to believe I can mask up in some generic clothes, steal a car and try to rob just about anywhere. I don't think many places should be exempt from robbery. By extension, just about everywhere has cameras (even modeled & visible in-game) so the warning there would apply to almost the entire city.

A few places that operate 24/7 with overwhelming security like PDHQ or a hospital should normally be off-limits, but even IRL we sometimes have guard details posted at people's rooms in a hospital.

I know it's not ideal but I think it would be a lot clearer for everyone to simply declare a select few areas green zones.

I've also suggested that staff could moderate exceptions so we can still have things like jail breaks within reason. It might seem a little off to ask admin permission but it would open up a lot of RP & keep everything sporting and fair for all sides. Maybe this could even be streamlined so crims could issue a challenge somehow without involving staff directly but still notifying them so they can observe?

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